Oriana Fallaci interview with Mohammad Reza Shah
http://www.amazon.com/Interview-History-Oriana-Fallaci/dp/0395252237/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280442661&sr=1-1
pp. 267-269.
O.F.: My goodness, it must be a great nuisance! I mean, it must be
pretty lonely being a king instead of a man.
M.R.P.: I don’t deny I’m lonely. Deeply so. A king, when he doesn’t
have to account to anyone for what he says and does, is inevitably
very much alone. But I’m not entirely alone because I’m accompanied by
a force that others can’t see. My mystical force. And the I get
messages. Religious messages. I’m very, very religious. I believe in
God, and I’ve always said that if God didn’t exist, it would be
necessary to invent him. Oh, I feel so sorry for those poor souls who
don’t have God. You can’t live without God. I’ve lived with God ever
since the age of five. That is, since God gave me those visions.
OF: Visions, Majesty?
MRP: Yes, visions. Apparitions.
OF: Of what? Of whom?
MRP: Of prophets. Oh, I’m surprised you don’t know about it.
Everyone knows I’ve had visions. I even wrote it in my autobiography.
As a child I had two visions. One when I was five and one when I was
six. The first time, I saw our Prophet Ali, he who, according to our
religion, disappeared to return on the day when he would save the
world. I had an accident – I fell against a rock. And he saved me – he
placed himself between me and the rock. I know because I saw him. And
not in a dream – in reality. Material reality, if you see what I mean.
I was the only one who saw him. The person who was with me didn’t see
him at all. But no one else was supposed to see him except me because
... Oh, I’m afraid you don’t understand me.
OF: Indeed I don’t, Majesty. I don’t understand you at all. We had
got off to such a good start, and instead now ... This business of
visions, of apparitions.. It’s not clear to me, that’s all.
MRP: Because you don’t believe. You don’t believe in God, you don’t
believe me. Many people don’t. Even my father didn’t believe it. He
never believed it, he always laughed about it. Anyway many people,
albeit respectfully, ask if I didn’t ever suspect it was a fantasy. My
answer is no. No, because I believe in God, in the fact of having been
chosen by God to accomplish a mission. My visions were miracles that
saved the country. My reign has saved the country and it’s saved it
because God was besides me. I mean, it’s not fair for me to take all
the credit for myself for the great things that I’ve done for Iran.
Mind you, I could. But I don’t want to, because I know that there was
someone else behind me. It was God. Do you see what I mean?
OF: No, Majesty. Because.. well, did you have these visions only as
a child, or have you also had them later as an adult?
MRP: I told you, only as a child. Never as an adult – only dreams.
At intervals of one or two years. Or every seven or eight years. For
instance, I once had two dreams in the span of fifteen years.
OF: What dreams, Majesty?
MRP: Religious dreams. Based on my mysticism. Dreams in which I saw
what would happen in tow or three months, and that happened just that
way in two or three months. But what these dreams were about, I can’t
tell you. They didn’t have to do with me personally; they had to do
with domestic problems of the country and so should be considered as
state secrets. But perhaps you’d understand better if instead of the
word dreams I used the word presentiments. I believe in presentiments
too. Some believe in reincarnation, I believe in presentiments. I have
continuous presentiments, as strong as my instinct. Even the day they
shot at me from a distant of six feet, it was my instinct that saved
me. Because, instinctively, while the assassin was emptying his
revolver at me, I did what in boxing is called shadow dancing. And a
fraction of a second before he aimed at my heart, I moved aside in
such a way that the bullet went into my shoulder. A miracle. I also
believe in miracles. When you think I’ve been wounded by a good five
bullets, one in the face, one in the shoulder, one in the head, two in
the body, and that the last one stuck in the barrel because the
trigger jammed... You have to believe in miracles. I’ve had so many
air disasters, and yet I’ve always come out unscathed – thanks to a
miracle while by God and the prophets. I see you’re incredulous.
گفتگوی محمد رضا شاه با اوریانا فالاچی
در کتاب مصاحبه با تاریخ
محمدرضا شاه، با «اوریانا فالاچی» در اکتبر
۱۹۷۳ در تهران گفتگو کرد و این گفتگو، در کتابی به نام «مصاحبه
با تاریخ» که مجموعه گفتگوهایی با چهرههای شناخته شده کشورهای
دیگری نیز هست به فارسی ترجمه و چاپ شده است. شاه، در این مصاحبه
در جواب سئوالات فالاچی از جمله درباره افکار مذهبی خود، چنین
ادعا میکند:
«… با وجود این من به کلی تنها
نیستم، زیرا نیرویی که دیگران نمیبینند، مرا همراهی میکند. یک
نیروی عرفانی. وانگهی من پیامهایی دریافت میکنم. پیامهای
مذهبی. من خیلی مذهبی هستم. به خدا باور دارم و همواره گفتهام
که اگر هم خدا وجود نمیداشت باید اختراعش میکردیم. واقعا آن
آدمهای بدبختی که خدا ندارند، مرا سخت متاثر میکنند. نمی توان
بدون خدا زندگی کرد. من از پنج سالگی با خدا زندگی میکنم، اما
از زمانی که الهاماتی به من شد
- الهامات، اعلیحضرت؟
- بله، الهامات،
تجلیات.
- از که، از چه؟
- از پیامبران. آه تعجب میکنم که نمیدانستید. همه
میدانند که الهاماتی به من شده است. من حتی این را در
زندگینامهام نوشتهام. در کودکی دو بار به من الهام شده است یک
بار در پنج سالگی و بار دوم در شش سالگی. در نخستین بار من حضرت
قائم را دیدم که بنابر مذهب ما غایب شده است تا روزی برگردد و
حهان را نجات دهد… من این را میدانم زیرا من او را دیدهام، نه
در رویا، در واقعیت، واقعیت مادی، میفهمید؟ من او را دیدم،
همین. کسی که همراه من بود او را ندید. و کسی هم جز من نمی
بایستی او را ببیند، زیرا… آه میترسم منظورم را درک نکنید…
الهامات من معجزههایی بودند که کشور را نجات دادند. سلطنت من
کشور را نجات داده زیرا خدا به من نزدیک بوده است …»
شاه، در رابطه با سئوالی درباره زنان، با تحقیر زنان
جواب میدهد: «بله، شما زنان هرگز یک میکل آنژ، یا یک باخ
نداشتهاید یا حتی یک اشپز بزرگ، و اگر از امکان و فرصت صحبت
کنید، پاسخ میدهم که شوخی است… هیچ چیز بزرگی نداشتهاید. راستی
شما در طی این مصاحبههایتان چند زن قادر به اداره یک کشور را
دیدهاید؟…»
وی، در جواب
سئوال اوریانا فالاچی، درباره ممنوعیت فعالیت احزاب، مفهوم
دموکراسی و اعدام نیز میگوید: «اقلیت های سیاسی به قدری کم
اهمیت و مسخره هستند که حتی نمیتوانند یک نماینده انتخاب کنند.
من همچنین نمیخواهم که حزب کمونیست مجاز باشد. در ایران،
کمونیست ها غیرقانونی هستند… اما من دموکراسی را نمیخواهم و
نمیدانم با آن چه باید کرد. این دموکراسی ارزانی خودتان باد… در
این جا لازم و درست است که بعضیها اعدام بشوند. در این جا ترحم
بیهوده است.